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the charges, miranda rights, the public safety exemption, where are we right now on that issue? >> well, the normal rule is that when someone's irsed, they're advised of their rights. you have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer. if you can't afford one it will be provided, that sort of thing. if police don't give that warning then they cannot use any statements of the defendant in court. the exception to that is called the public safety exception. it's been extended by judges to terrorism cases. and the idea is that if you need information quickly to preserve public safety, you can ask those questions and still use the responses in court. but that public safety exception rule is limited. it only applies for several hours after fill in the blank. we assume after questioning starts rather than after arrest. probably no more than a day, day and a half. >> where do you come up with that? pete, let me interrupt you there. who has come up with what is the time? is it just, you know it when you see it? >> in terms of the time li
, but a gunshot wound to the neck left him unable to speak. it was unclear if he was read his miranda rights. but in washington, white house spokesman jay carney said he's a naturalized u.s. citizen, so he will not face a military tribunal. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice, under us law. u.s. citizen can not be trialed, tried rather in military commissions. and it's important to remember that since 9-11 we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> brown: tsarnaev was also likely to face state charges in the shooting death of a police officer at m.i.t. it all followed his dramatic capture friday evening, when he was found hiding and wounded in a boat behind a home in the boston suburb of watertown. his older brother tamarlen died hours earlier in a shoot-out with police that triggered the all-day manhunt and shut down the city. yesterday, on cbs, massachusetts governor deval patrick stood by the unprecedented measures. >> i think people understood that we were
over dzhokhar is to read him his miranda rights, what are you hear something. >> >> reporter: that is right. he was not red his miranda rights. they used a rarely used public safety, but they should not have invoked that because he no longer threatens an attack to society and he should get an attorney as soon as possible before he is interrogated. >> thank you. >>> federal law enforcements are weighing in on the rights and the status of the accused boston bomber, should he be treated as a criminal or enemy combaton with no rights? >> you have the high value interrogation group. they are skilled. they know how to do this. the miranda right can be read at a later time. >> four lawmakers including congressman pete king of new york believe he should be tkes eug nateed as a poe term enemy combaton. a conviction is likely so he is more interested in intelligence the suspect can offer. >>> thousands of runners at the london marathon paid tribute today to pay tribute to those killed and injured. they observed 30 seconds of silence before the start of each group of racers. many wore
was read his miranda rights, the 19-year-old charged with one count of using and conspiring to use a weapons of mass destruction of resulting in death. and one count of malicious different stru-- ofproperty, tha maximum penalty of death, federal complain reveals that the tsarnaev brothers were residing in the nation legally, dzhokhar's older brother, tamerlan who was killed friday morning was a lawful permanent resident, one of the two told a carjacking victim thursday night they were the boston marathon bombers, a search of dzhokhar's umass dartmouth dorm room turned up a hat and jacket corne jack y suspect number 2. tsarnaev remains hospitalized at beth israel hospital with gunshot wounds to his head, neck, legs and hands, authorities believe one was sev-inflicted in -- self-inflectioned in a botched suicide attempt. >> canadian authorities announcing in connection with fbi they have broken up a terrorist plot to blow up a passenger train and bridge somewhere between toronto and u.s. border. a ballot they believe had ties to al qaeda overseas. >> the individuals were receiving su
can he be questioned before the public safety runs out, most say 48 hours. once under miranda he is under no obligation to cooperate with authorities. >> remember the number one goal right here is to get inside his head and get whatever intelligence he has with any operatives in the united states to protect the homeland and protect americans inside the united states. >> reporter: speaking this morning on fox news, former u.s. attorney general alberto gonzales suggested being mirandized will not necessarily close off the flow of information from tsnaraev. >> we have something we can give him which is his life. for example, taking the death penalty off the i believe at that. there is possible some kind of deal would be made where he provides information and in exchange for that the government gives him some kind of a plea agreement. >> reporter: gonzalez suspects what may be happening now is in the obama administration is a quote, interagency scrum where some are pushing for a quick mirandizing. others may be advocating a delay so as much information as possible can be garnered, ma
reading him miranda rights. what does that mean for any information they might be getting? >> well, it's very important to the people -- we've been talking a lot about miranda and i think it's important for people to understand what it does and doesn't mean. if you are questioned without your miranda rights, all that means is that the statements you make cannot be used against you in a criminal court. they can be used against other people. they can be used as leads to other inquiries. and you can still be prosecuted with lots of other evidence. all it means is that those statements cannot be used against you. from what it certainly appears there is lots of other evidence against this fellow. so the fact that the government might be giving up the chance to use some of it is not much of a sacrifice on the part of the government. >> he also at this point could indicate he wants an attorney and doesn't want to answer any questions, correct? >> absolutely. even when someone doesn't get miranda rights, the statements still have to be voluntary. he can't be tortured. he can't be waterboarded.
. even though he has not been read his miranda rights because the government invoked a public safety exception which permits law enforcement to engage in a limited and focused interrogation. joining me now for more on these developments is kent schafer, criminal defense attorney with buyers, schafer and deboard. god to s good to see you, sir. >> thank you. good afternoon. >> what's your take on this? why charge him with a weapons of mass destruction charge and not murder or conspiracy? >> well, actually, it's a much easier charge for the government to prove. in this case, they have to prove two things. that he used or possessed a weapon of mass destruction and that it resulted in somebody's death. by doing that, he'd be eligible for the federal death penalty. where under massachusetts state law, if they charged murder, he wouldn't be eligible for the death penalty. so virtually, you know, from a prosecutor's standpoint, it cuts out all the fluff. it's a very simple case. there's case law on top of case law saying that a bomb like this is defined as a weapon of mass destruction. so it
be read his miranda rights. moving past the politics of it because it seems to get a little poe lit kal, as a former member of fbi how does whether or not the suspect is read his miranda rights influence or impact your investigation? >> it really becomes irrelevant. good report-based interviewers and interrogators who are the ones most effective. the fbi doesn't do that because we're nice. we do that because it worked. in reported based interviewers miranda they can read that and continue. it is not a major obstacle. it is almost irrelevant. jenna: really? we're hearing a it is a major issue whether we get to the bottom of this investigation. so what should we consider as we continue to hear the debate ongoing over the next several days? >> it doesn't, it really doesn't make that much difference to the interviewers and especially the particular group of profile he is -- profilers they developed at quantico, at the fbi academy. this is not terribly relevant. they can sit down with the people. they can interview them. they look for behavioral cues. they look for a way to establish a relat
's miranda rights. they said he could still pose a threat either because there are more bombs planted out there or he's connected to a larger terrorist cell. either way it has some lawmakers concerned. as investigators continue to interrogate their suspect some lawmakers argue he should be treated as an enemy combatant and denied an attorney for the time being. >> we should be allowed her intelligence-gathering purposes. >> investigators say they're still uncertain whether zocor and his brother tamerlan who died in a shoot-out on friday with police have any ties to fore te union issued a statement saying we must not waver from our tried and true justice system even in the most difficult of times. denial of rights is un-american and will only make it harder to obtain fair convictions. some liberal lawmakers agree and said they would be comfortable with tsarnaev being designated as an enemy combatant. >> i don't believe. it would beunconstitutional to >> it carries its own risk especially if that suspect is an american citizen. it could be challenged in court and that
is remote. >> right. you know, judge, a lot of people h ve been talking about miranda, the public safety exception. i don't want to spend a lot of time on that. but, you know, when the police announced that the public threat was over, once dzhokhar was taken into custody, doesn't that suggest that the public safety exception doesn't kick in, or has been solidified? >> the public safety exception is in no way applicable in this case. that was for a situation where there was a gun in a public place and the police needed to know where it was. they asked the guy they just caught where's the gun before where was the gun? >>> they asked where is the gun. >> be that as it may you have a public defender in boston who is chomping at the bit to appoint a federal judge to defend the suspect. you could reassign a public defender is he or sheable to come in and say i don't want you talking to my client? >> he or she can say that. it's not going to stop this trying to do is to collect intelligence. i'm sure that if that's what they're trying to do, they will simply continue to do it, and gather only
ginnis in boston. thank you, susan. >>> for now federal officials have decided not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. miranda rights inform criminals of their right to remain silent and their right to an attorney. this is allowed on a limited basis when the public may be in immediate danger, and there are those like senator lindsey graham who say tsarnaev should be consideredn enemy combatant so he can waive his right. others disagree. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need it to get him into a trial. i don't think we have to cross the line and say he's an enemy combatant which could be challenged in court. one circuit rules one way, one rules the other way. >> we should reserve the right to look at him as an enemy combatant and continue to look for evidence and if we find evidence and go to him as chuck says and gather intelligence. >> now the suspect's mother says tamer lan was contacted by fbi. the fbi says that is not true but the fbi did interview him in 2011 at the request of the russian government. officials are focusing on a trip he made to russia in 2012. sky news's katie sta
-called public safety exception to the miranda rule where for some period of time, it's not entirely clear how long, a suspect can be questioned without miranda warnings and that apparently is what's happening here. again, it's complicated somewhat by the fact that we didn't know exactly what tsarnaev's medical condition is and how many questions he can answer. apparently he's answering some questions in writing. so i don't really see lindsey graham's proposal as all that differentwhat's going on now. he seems to suggest a longer process of questioning him, but the obama administration has also committed to some period of questioning. now, this all assumes that he's willing to answer questions. can he always samp simply say it answering questions and there is no way either under enemy combatant rules or in the criminal justice system to force someone to answer questions who doesn't want to answer them. >> the argument i guess is under this limited questioning period before he is formally advised of his miranda rights, he has and right to an attorney, doesn't have to answer any questions. there
of people have been talking about miranda and the public safety exception. i don't want to spend a lot of time on that. when the police announced that the public threat was over, once dhokhar was taken into custody, then, you know, doesn't that suggest that the public safety exception doesn't kick in or has been nullified? >> the public safety exception is in no way in my view applicable in the case. that was designed for a sequestration where there was a gun in a public place and the police needed to know where it was. >> judge jeanine: he had an empty who willster an holesters where is the gun. now, if a judge agrees to assign a public defender, is he then able to come in or she and say i don't want you talking to my client? >> he or she can say that. it is not going stop this process. because what they are trying to do is to collect intelligence. and i'm sure that if that is what they are trying to do they will simply continue to do it and gather only in it tell against and not disclose it to anybody who is working on the case or trying the case. they will put up what is called a ch
noth get his miranda rights. even though right now there's a public safety excmondtion thado going t in 48 hours and then he can >> that is what happened to the marathon bomber. he was a foreign citizen. he was read his miranda rights. muitics say the intelligence enm committee as to how the plot develops. bom he is now in super max. i r > officers and federal ey wthorities take him alive tis unlike his brother who perished in the fight they were trying hard becey wse they wanted to ay the questions as they go forward to speaght r > he is an american citie inn. he can't be sent to guantanamo a bay he can't be tried in a co military cowas rission. cases there are cases where americans were deemed enemy combatants. pl hosea padilla for one but in the case of him they have not found any link to an al qaeda linked group and therefore no court in the u.s. would necessarily rily uphold the president as r in commander-in-chief in designating him as enetinue ould combatant. this would be shaky i am told by experts.lleged even if he is deemed an enetinu he watant he has a right to an attorna
administration has agreed to delay a reading of his miranda rights under a public safety exemption, secretary of defense chuck hagel has not seen evidence to link the bombings to terror groups. scrutiny turns to the fbi who reportedly questioned the older brother tamerlan in 2011 at the request of a foreign government. this is so interesting. of russia. the fbi told the a.p. despite interviewing him and relatives they did not find any activity. the agency dropped the ball. richard, i wonder if there is going to be a lot of questions and maybe even hearings out of this or what comes to mind just knowing those basic facts? >> there probably will be hearings of the fbi whether it learned more or could have done more. critics say that is monday morning quarterbacking. it ought to be about what we were talking about, what can we do to prevent or identify young people who are radicalized and how did we respond and how what did we learn about lockdowns. as the military would say it ought not to just focus on fbi. it's much bigger and much broader. we have to learn a lot from this. the reason is this
. they didn't give a miranda warning so the aclu is shouting about that. and of course, well-known southern bell lindsey graham, why isn't he being treated as an enemy combatant? that one to me -- >> what about benghazi? >> shut up. >> stephanie: i'll always have benghazi. it is my terror. no. >> i would never go thirsty again. i'll have another mint julep thank you. >> stephanie: the legal expert i heard this weekend said this is a nonstarter to treat him as enemy combatants. did he a crime on u.s. soil. >> peter king said this. >> i believe -- should be portrayed as enemy combatants. senator mccain, senator graham, senator ayotte, there are so many questions unanswered so many potential links to terrorism here. the battlefield is now in the united states. i believe he is an enemy combatant. ultimately, he will be tried in a civilian court and the statements taken from him cannot be used against him in that trial. right now, the only links we have as much as chechnyan involvement in the islamic movement. are there other conspirators out there? where do they get the radicalization? >> he so
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? rather you walk through a miranda warning, someone has a chance to step back, what's this about an attorney? what's this about a right to remain silence? you need to protect the public. you need that information. >> do you believe that young man h y to facthat pelt >> given the nathese crimes, i would say the answer to that is yes. >> the city of boston is angry, justifiably. and that anger is unlikely to dissipate very quickly. so, can he get a fair trial in that city? >> very difficult to move a trial. the legal standard essentially no jury in this city will be able to look fairly on this evidence. very high standard. i believe he will face trial in boston. >> michael garcia, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> as investigators peer deeply into the lives of the bombing suspect, they will look at what happened in a remote and dangerous part of russia, visited not long ago by the older brother. he apparently came back a changed man. and abc's kirit radia is there tonight. >> reporter: last year, tamerlan traveled here, to dagestan, a region home to an islamist uprising.
yet to be charged in connection with the attack or been notified of his miranda rights, however, this morning officials tell nbc news he's awake and using pen and paper to answer questions from investigators. all of this as the fbi says it has obtained surveillance footage showing tsarnaev putting down his backpack near the finish line just minutes before the explosion. massachusetts governor deval patrick says he's been briefed on the footage. >> the suspect took the backpack off, put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion, so pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly. >> all right, so while we wait on that video, i want you to look at these new infrared images released showing the final intense moments of the manhunt. stun grenades just exploded as police moved in to capture the 19-year-old, and it capped a nearly four-day search for dzhokhar and his older brother, tamerlan, and while the nation was reeling, we are getting word this morning that the brothers actually
being given his miranda rights as a matter of public safety. >>> one byproduct of the events of last week is a certain sense of boston pride. it was on full display. yesterday as the bruins took part in their annual shirt off our backs ceremony. it's usually a carom for the fans. they asked the first responders to attend and gave them their jerseys. and there was neil diamond on saturday at fenway park. singing his "sweet caroline." as red sox fans sung along in unison. ♪ sweet caroline ♪ bum, bum, bum >> what a moment. >>> later in this half hour, details about the older brother's american wife. >>> and later on "good morning america," a closer look at any missed warning signs. >>> major breaking news from washington state. five people are dead in a shooting at an apartment complex in the town of federal way, south of seattle. a suspect was shot by police officers. he's believed to be the only shooter. no word yet from investigators on what led to the gunfire. this is a story we'll be tracking all morning. >>> a few of those displaced by the fertilizer plant explosion in texas h
are told he had not been given his miranda rights. do you have any sense of whether he has this morning or how soon it will be before he does receive them? >> the -- the decision not to read miranda rights was made by the federal officials. this is a unique clause to the terrorism law that we've not dealt with at the local level before. so, we are standing by and watching that at this point in time to see how that develops. but, the lawyers are involved in the decision, and certainly we're very anxious to talk to him, and the investigators will be doing that as soon as possible. >> commissioner over the weekend i heard you say you believe you found evidence your offices did you believe that these brothers were planning some kind of another attack, or at least prepared for it. tell us about that. >> the two suspects were armed with handguns at the scene of the shoot-out. and there were multiple explosive devices, including a large one that was similar to the pressure cooker device that was found on boylston street. i saw that with my own eyes. i believe that the only reason that someone
. >> the supreme court's case in which miranda gave a course confession. said confessions have to be knowing, meaning you have to tell the person they don't have to confess, they don't have to talk to you. numerous supreme court cases have picked up on this and said the government must always tell you when you're confronted with a government you don't have to speak to the government. protecting the freedom of speech also protects the right to remain silent. but the supreme court said most people don't don't have the right to remain silent. so you, government, fbi or travel cup have to tell whoever you are interrogating they have the right to remain silent. that is what is not being honored, from what we understand. whatever he said could affect other evidence that independently obtained. it is risky not to read miranda rights and a violation of the constitution not to do so. so the government treads in danger when they try to strike information and somewhere we will not use that against the defendant. tracy: the emotional side of me says too bad. speak of the. >> the emotional side if he wan
is to treat him as a criminal defendant. that means he must be read his miranda rights, notifying him of his right to remain silent. ed davis says the two bombing suspects were planning more attacks. >> we have reason to believe based upon the evidence that was found at that scene, the explosions, the explosive ordinance that was unexploded and the fire power that they had that they were going to attack other individuals. >> so far, police have not released any information about a possible motive. this is the first sunday since the boston marathon bombings and thousands around the bay area gathered at church services today to pray for the victims. we will have that part of the story in about 30 minutes. >>> you can find more on our website. there is a special tab on the front page with pictures and a slide show. log on to ktvu.com for our continuing coverage online. >> in san jose, police are looking for clues in two separate shootings, one involving a car filled with people. it happened outside of the fiesta nightclub and restaurant. an argument inside may have spilled out into the parking
-- they are culling out the quarrel decision that is almost a 30-year exception to the miranda rule. it has got nothing to do with anything, the idea of charging dzhokhar as an enemy combatant that essentially shifts it to guantanamo, is so inconsistent it is [ inaudible ] to me. >> bill: the exception to miranda that you can get that information because of a national security issue, you can question him without reading him his miranda rights first. i have no problem with that at all. >> i agree with you. >> bill: but what is wrong with trying anymore our federal courts? haven't we had success trying terrorist cases in our federal courts? >> hundreds of successful cases, instead of the tribunal where they have had less than a handful with not near the success of our federal courts especially in boston. you have a great united states attorney up there, they have plenty of experience in dealing with people like this. the idea of calling him an enemy combatant and shipping him to a gun on the mow, is an outrage. .he is communicating. the hig guys have already been in there, t
. anytime we question him about his guilt or innocence, he is entitled to his miranda rights and a lawyer. to gathere the right intelligence from enemy combatants and a citizen can be an enemy combatant. host: the question we want to hear from you on its should the ballston bomber designated as an enemy combatant? screen.ers are on your chuck want to play inyou schumer, a democrat, responding to lindsey graham yesterday. [video clip] >> i think the good news is we don't need enemy combatants to get all the information we need out of him. the court that has ruled has allowed a lot of flexibility in the public safety exception before you mirandize someone. anytime there's a high value interrogation group, composed of the fbi, cia, and anyone else can question him without a lawyer in a secure situation and find out whatever they need, that can be used against him in a trial, but there's plenty of evidence. they don't need his confession. so i don't think we have to cross the line and say he should be an enemy combatant, which could be challenged in court. getting comments on our facebook pag
minutes. i do not care if you read people their miranda rights, but do not shut down the intelligence gathering process. on the way he agreed to cooperate is the fbi flew to his family and his parents convinced him. hadtimes square bomber, he pakistan taliban ties and was read his miranda -- render rights and we never interrogating him for intelligence gathering purpose. osama bin laden's father-in-law was never designate and -- and an enemy -- son in law was never designated an enemy combatants. can you imagine what he could tell us? he was the spokesman for al qaeda after 9/11. there was a disturbing pattern of not gathering intelligence when that opportunity exists. i will grab a pen and pad and we will go next door and i will answer questions about what you have about the fbi. we're way to observe a moment of silence here for the folks in boston. >> she was very bright, very political, which is why she and lincoln got together in the first place. she spoke several languages fluently. she was extremely well educated. she had all of these things going for her, but she had suffered a
now has closed that limited scope that they were able to focus on before reading him his miranda rights? >> not necessarily. that could go independently. i guess now that they've had this initial appearance, i suppose that's a fair assumption. it isn't automatic but that's probably right. >> what about michael isikoff, our colleague is reporting that i.c.e. homeland security has focused on new bedford, massachusetts and two individuals were taken in for immigration violations and they apparently are friends of tamerlan tsarnaev. can you tell me any more about that? >> these are people, i presume he is talking about people detained in new bedford, massachusetts on friday evening. the fbi has been trying to investigate whether they had any knowledge of this. whether they had any role in it. they seem to have concluded that they don't. but they're being held for now on immigration charges pending further investigation. >> and before i let you go, i know you have more to cover. 2009, this police report of tamerlan tsarnaev being arrested on domestic violence allegations. that has bee
that they don't have to read him his miranda rights right away. as time passes, does the justification for that exception grow weaker? are they on ls strong ground? >> it sure does, because as you know, miranda rights are a bedrock constitutional principle. we all have the right to remain silent, t get an attorney and be advised of those rights. the public safety exemption is a very narrow exemption. there has to be an imminent threat to the public. it certainly seems less imminent. >> don't officials who say the terror is over, don't they kind of undercut that argument, and does it really matter in the end? >> this is certainly an argument that's going to be handed to this defendant's defense attorney when that time comes. there have been contradictory statements made that there is no public threat, there is no ticking bomb, thank goodness, apparently, based on what we know so far. so we're giving them an argument to use later. >> the issue is, the questioning that's permitted without miranda is very narrow in scope, correct? >> yes. it's about what the public threat is. it's not all
. >> the decision not to read miranda rights was made by the federal officials. this is a unique clause at the federal level that we've not experienced here. >> the mother of both suspects tells the "associated press" that the fbi spoke to her sons after the bomb exploded an continues to claim that the fbi monitored him back in 2011 during an interview. a moment of silence begins at 11:50 hour time. back to you. >> thank you. >>> students at the university of massachusetts were stushed to learn they -- were stunned to learn they knew one of the bombers. >> he's like, yeah, tragedies happen. >> they say he was on campus and say they were shocked when they saw his picture on tv after the explosion. coply square will remain closed for at least two more days. fbi agents scour the scene for evidence and debris from the bombing is cleared. officials say the square will not reopen until the fbi investigation is complete. >>> :7:-- 7:03. the as are in oakland getting ready to begin a series with the boston red sox. some plan to meet with air aaron -- with aaron hearn, the victim in the shootin
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